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Post by pappenheimuk » Sun May 01, 2005 5:31 pm

Hi,
Does anyone know of a good print or plan of the above Crimean fortification. :)
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Post by barr7430 » Sun May 01, 2005 10:29 pm

There is a man I know......

A good friend in Lancashire called David Shuttleworth who may well have access to this very information. I think he is a subscriber to the forum and I'll e mail him to see if he can help out.

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Post by pappenheimuk » Mon May 02, 2005 7:32 pm

Thanks,
Me and a couple of boys at our club were impressed with the Crimean battle that was run behind our game we decided to get some troops and give it a go. We decided to use mostly French troops as we thinking of building a model of the Malakoff redoubt to maybe use at next years Glasgow show. :D
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Post by thinredline » Mon May 02, 2005 10:55 pm

Hi,

Nice to know there are other people out there interested in the Crimean War. May I suggest "The Crimean War Research Society" An absolute mine of information and publications, and I would suggest probally the most accurate information available on the subject. These guys are historians, ex- and serving militaryand the likes, as well as the common and garden wargamer like you and I.

Of course, we are allowed to use some artistic license - best wishes wi the project.

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Post by barr7430 » Mon May 02, 2005 10:58 pm

Bob Lauder is just too nice a guy to say that it was HIS game at Glasgow that you admired Pappenheim and I agree, it was great!

I think his family are a well known Turkish sect who moved from Ismir to Motherwell.

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Post by barr7430 » Wed May 04, 2005 8:08 am

Thanks to 'JUTLAND'who as a librarian,wargamer and all round good egg has managed to acquire information from an original work by Elphinstone written I believe just after the Crimean War for the Royal Engineers. I have seen the book and it is a goldmine of engineering detail and drawings of the fortifications, siegeworks and engineering projects in the Sevastopol area 1854-1856.

I will post the info in a new Warchest section ARCHIVE of the Malakoff fort. This should keep you Crimean buffs happy!!

Many thanks David. I think we owe you a beer for that one! :D
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Post by pappenheimuk » Wed May 04, 2005 11:04 am

Thanks guys,
Time to look out the old tetrion and foam board :D
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Post by barr7430 » Wed May 04, 2005 1:39 pm

Guys,
visit 19th Century Archive in the Warchest. The Malakoff plans have been uploaded.

Many thanks to David for supplying these gems. :D
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Post by thinredline » Thu May 05, 2005 9:51 pm

Barry,

Downloaded this excellent material for my records.
It would make a truly magnificent centrepiece on any table.

Thanks to "Jutland" for his efforts and best wishes to "Pappenheimuk" and his groups endeavour.

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Post by barr7430 » Thu May 05, 2005 9:55 pm

I think it is totally top stuff and have had the privilege of seeing the actual book from which it came. They don't make books like that anymore. Every page is a masterpiece and it had over 400 of them i seem to remember.

Go on Bob, build it(ha--- Bob the Builder)

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Sorry
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Post by thinredline » Thu May 05, 2005 11:22 pm

Sorry to disappoint you Barry, I believe Pappenheimuk and his lads might though !

It does give food for thought, but I could not possibly aspire to such a spectacular piece of terrain !

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Post by pappenheimuk » Fri May 06, 2005 9:56 am

Downloaded some pics from a site called Xenophon International about Sevastopol, I did a search for Malakoff and it found Kornilov bastion pics. Is the Kornilov a different fortification from the Malakoff? I ask as I am a complete newbie to the Crimean era. Anyone want a look at the pics, I have created pdf's of them? :D

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Post by barr7430 » Fri May 06, 2005 10:07 am

Hi,

The Korniloff(v) and the Malakoff are one in the same.Not quite sure why there are two names for the same fort.

Would love to see the pics


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Post by pappenheimuk » Fri May 06, 2005 10:10 am

How can I upload them?
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Post by martin terroni » Fri May 06, 2005 10:18 am

Eh! Bob , downloaded plans , I am willing to have a crack at it, if you are game, does not need to be exact, but could russle up something similar 8)
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