1690-91 Irish Lists

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1690-91 Irish Lists

Post by Mulciber » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:10 pm

Has anyone had a go at producing a general James II Irish Army list or lists along the lines of those in the BLB rulebook for France or Grand Alliance?

As yet I'm not looking to directly recreate The Boyne or Aughrim so I'm after a slightly more "generic" list.

I'm still fairly new to the period and still feeling my way via various accounts of the conflict.

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Post by flick40 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:03 pm

Not what you wanted but here is a link to King James Army in Ireland, still a good look through. It is a thick book, I have it in hardback at home as well.

https://books.google.com/books?id=DuQ2c ... my&f=false

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Re: 1690-91 Irish Lists

Post by Mulciber » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:52 am

Thanks Joe, that looks very interesting.

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Re: 1690-91 Irish Lists

Post by obriendavid » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:47 am

Barry is currently writing two books on the Irish campaign and I'm sure there will be lists in there.
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Post by Mulciber » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:29 pm

Really looking forward to Barry's books appearing!
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Post by quindia » Tue May 12, 2015 10:17 pm

This might help...

http://leagueofaugsburg.blogspot.com/se ... ch-button=

The series is based on building armies for both sides. My armies ARE based on the main elements engaged at the Boyne, but I always go about building generic forces by choosing part of a historical conflict. Once I have my core armies, I can expand them in any way I choose.
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Re: 1690-91 Irish Lists

Post by Mulciber » Wed May 13, 2015 6:34 am

Thanks Clarence, that's actually what I've largely been using!
I was thinking more specifically of things such as troop grades, numbers per regiment and brigade, which units to make more "militia-y" and so on.

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Post by quindia » Wed May 13, 2015 9:55 am

Ah. I usually vary troop qualities to match the specific battle or balance my scenario. There are many instances in history where 'Harrison's Regiment' preformed like heroes in one battle and fought like little girls in the next. In the Ireland campaign, we often are unsure as to even which regiments were present as many contemporary accounts simply mention Lord SO-in-So traveled to Wheresit with five battalions of foot and two regiments of dragoons!

Anyway, as Dave mentioned, the Ireland books will have as much detail as possible. Again, my advice is to pick a battle or a portion of one and model your initial forces on that!

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Re: 1690-91 Irish Lists

Post by Captain of Dragoons » Thu May 14, 2015 1:43 am

Ireland Book(s) :!:

I knew you guys were working on a book for the Ireland but two. :shock:

What is the format? A part one and two of scenarios or are they a rules book and scenario book?

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Re: 1690-91 Irish Lists

Post by toggy » Thu May 14, 2015 5:24 am

Edward

They are both scenario books, but are also going to have plenty of information regarding orbats, uniforms & special scenario specific rules.

It was originally intended to fit into 1 book, but Barry has found so much information he has had to split into 2.

The 1st book will be getting all of its wonderful pictures taken at the end of the month & then it's ready to go.

I'm sure Barry will give us a more accurate time scale, but I would think late summer for release at worst.

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Re: 1690-91 Irish Lists

Post by Mulciber » Thu May 14, 2015 6:28 am

toggy wrote: I'm sure Barry will give us a more accurate time scale, but I would think late summer for release at worst.

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Post by Captain of Dragoons » Fri May 15, 2015 12:14 am

Thanks Bob :wink:
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Re: 1690-91 Irish Lists

Post by barr7430 » Sat May 16, 2015 9:06 pm

Just back from the Kingdom of Saudia and picked up this thread so here is an update:

Volume 1 is at the design house right now. I reckon it could run to 200 pages as the text was about 40k words. Volume 2 I will start shortly. Another book which is based on army/regimental lists is finished but in the queue... so,

I have been making good use of my time :wink:
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Re: 1690-91 Irish Lists

Post by Mulciber » Sun May 17, 2015 4:19 pm

When can we place orders for Vol 1, Barry?

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Post by yar68 » Sun May 17, 2015 10:29 pm

As Mr Burns would say......Excellent!
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