BLB in 2016 some news

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Re: BLB in 2016 some news

Post by barr7430 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:19 pm

Excellent Truls thanks and informative.

Remember though - Mackay's Brigade was from the Dutch army and not the Scots. His three regiments - Mackay's Balfour's and Ramsay's were known as the Scots -Dutch Brigade and had served in Flanders before their ignominious humbling at the hands of Dundee's men.
The other regiments were newly raised in Scotland with the exception of Hasting's single English batt
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Re: BLB in 2016 some news

Post by Gunfreak » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:54 pm

barr7430 wrote:Excellent Truls thanks and informative.

Remember though - Mackay's Brigade was from the Dutch army and not the Scots. His three regiments - Mackay's Balfour's and Ramsay's were known as the Scots -Dutch Brigade and had served in Flanders before their ignominious humbling at the hands of Dundee's men.
The other regiments were newly raised in Scotland with the exception of Hasting's single English batt
It does mention he was in Dutch service.
I took it to mean he spread the "Dutch system" to the Scottish army.
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Post by barr7430 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:27 pm

possibly but I have no information on that.
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Post by Gunfreak » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:52 pm

I have an actual warfare question.

There are now 4 new dragoon horses? And 4 new swedish horses?
Do the russian and swedes use the same horses?
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Post by barr7430 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:46 pm

Yes and they should also fit the old horses
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Post by Gunfreak » Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:59 pm

Very nice! So total of 8 new horses, isn't that like a major expansion of the stable (because before these new codes you had about 8 horses?)
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Re: BLB in 2016 some news

Post by arthur1905 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:02 pm

regarding the excellent discussion on Platoon firing, in Dr Alan J Guy's (assistant director of the National Army museum 1988) essay entitled "the fall and rise of the British Army 1660-1704" says that the regulations published in 1690 and 1701 established a core of common practice that made it possible to assimilate the most significant new weapon system of the period, the Flintlock and socket bayonet, and to develop the devastating 'platoon fire' technique favored by Marlborough and his generals.

He goes on my saying that this was the only radical departure made by the Duke from the arrangements that had prevailed in William's reign.

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Post by barr7430 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:50 pm

thanks Mark, the inference then being that the British were not consistently using platoon fire pre Marlborough.
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Re: BLB in 2016 some news

Post by arthur1905 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:29 pm

Barry

yes, that was my interpretation as well.

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Re: BLB in 2016 some news

Post by Gunfreak » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:09 am

More on French Platoon fire

The fight at the lines of Barbant is the first recorded instance of the emplyoment of platoon firing system in the French or Bravarian armies.

This had been in use by the allies for some time. The system was not wildely adopted by France until1707, although individual commanders, aware of the handicap under which their troops laboured in musktetry contests on the battlefield, increasingly instructed their soldiers in its use before that date.

The notable skill with which the Bravarian infantry extricated themselves from a very tight spot at Elixheim may be attributed, in part atleast, to the employment of this flexible and efective system of firing.

The French tended to use the method when in defence, relying on the bayonet rush when on the attack.
Their army adopted Platoon firing offically in 1755.

Source Noseworthy Anatomy of Victory 1992 pp 58-60

So first seen in 1705 more widlely adopted in 1707
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Re: BLB in 2016 some news

Post by Justin Penwith » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:34 pm

Barry,

If you need/desire/have enough pity for a group of Yanks in California to playtest the 3rd edition, my group is willing and able. Especially if the new rules will speed up play for groups of 8 or more players.

My personal computer has been up and down (mostly down) for the past year, so I am now catching up and thus missed this when first posted.

I am very intrigued by what is hinted at on the blog.

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Post by barr7430 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:00 pm

Hello Justin,

just saw this. I have been travelling continuously now for three weeks. Please mail me on wordtwister@hotmail.co.uk"

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Post by Justin Penwith » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:46 pm

Barry,


email was sent on 10/22.

Thanks!


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Re: BLB in 2016 some news

Post by barr7430 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:00 am

Justin was just reminded of your mail when I saw this post again. I do apologize for not sending through the draft but Clarence and I were fixing a couple of things and still haven't bottomed that out. Will send

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Re: BLB in 2016 some news

Post by Justin Penwith » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:12 pm

barr7430 wrote:Justin was just reminded of your mail when I saw this post again. I do apologize for not sending through the draft but Clarence and I were fixing a couple of things and still haven't bottomed that out. Will send

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