February 2011 Date: 26-27 Borodino

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Post by barr7430 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:54 pm

OK so I have uploaded 9 good quality pics of the game from day 1 which I hope you enjoy!
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Post by obriendavid » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:47 pm

The pics have turned out really well but we could do with more Russians :wink:
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Post by kiwipeterh » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:01 am

Yes, the pictures are very mouth watering. Any of the Russian Kuirassieres, especially of the guard variety?

Once again it seems I was in the wrong hemisphere at the wrong time. Drats!!

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Post by Anonymous » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:13 am

kiwipeterh wrote:...
Once again it seems I was in the wrong hemisphere at the wrong time. Drats!!

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Same here :cry:
I m definetly in a Wargamers Wasteland :( and I can only look at the beautyful masses of troops on that lovely modelled terrain :roll: and envy you all who had the privilege to fight up there 8)

So where was I....Ticket Vienna-Glasgow, hm, GBP 300.- :roll: I should start saving money.

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Post by barr7430 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:04 pm

Gunter... Austria is not so far away.....
We had two Americans at the event (although both now living in Scotland!)

Plan far enough ahead and anything is possible!!

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Post by Churchill » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:20 pm

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Post by Gunfreak » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:58 pm

MarechalNey wrote:
kiwipeterh wrote:...
Once again it seems I was in the wrong hemisphere at the wrong time. Drats!!

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Same here :cry:
I m definetly in a Wargamers Wasteland :( and I can only look at the beautyful masses of troops on that lovely modelled terrain :roll: and envy you all who had the privilege to fight up there 8)

So where was I....Ticket Vienna-Glasgow, hm, GBP 300.- :roll: I should start saving money.

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Damn thats expencive, I get tickets to london and glasgow for like £30, that two way.
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Post by Qurchi Bashi » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:09 pm

Good to meet all of you at the game last weekend. It was a fun and intense weekend. It was probably a turn too far for me, both in terms of battlefield results - the death ride of the Russian Cuirassier - and physical endurance - I was exhausted by the end. I now have a pretty good handle on the rules for infantry and know I need to read up on cavalry before running a game. I took a bunch of pictures, but I haven't downloaded them yet, but I'll let you know when they are posted.

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Post by barr7430 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:57 pm

Welcome to the Forum David :D

Yes I would say that was a pretty intense baptism of fire even by our standards. The stakes were high and the players were VERY engaged with the challenge of beating the enemy.
The thing that pleased me most was the amount of fighting we got done and the closeness of the result to reality even down to the point of certain units performing to the historical picture.
The player's exhaustion at the Fleches table and the huge number of close combats:

Infantry v infantry
Infantry v cavalry
Cavalry v cavalry

together with the relatively low level of 'musketry' marked the battle out as something a little more akin to atavistic ancients warfare that elegant Horse and Musket warfare.

The casualty rates were huge. Most non close combat casualties were caused by artillery (as is correct) but there were at least 6 instances of regiments fighting each other to annihilation without breaking from the combat..

in R2E terms this does not represent total extinction but rather extinction of combat effectiveness via casualties, fatigue, disorder, broken weapons and lack of leadership.

As one of the Umpire team I was knackered at the end and felt like I had been in a fight!

Congrats to the players:

Bold French attacks and oh so gritty Russian defence!
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Post by toggy » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:11 pm

Another great weekend, definitely the most intense battle I have ever played in.
The sheer size of the forces involved was staggering,and resolving some of the combat rounds was a huge undertaking, for which I think all the players owe our 2 umpires a great deal of thanks, as without their goodwill & patience none of us would be enjoying these wonderful events.

The quality of Barry's terrain was quite brilliant, hopefully it will appear around the convention scene, so that many more people can appreciate it, and it goes without saying that the figures were top notch as well.

Looking forward to some more great pictures of a truly epic Sunday.

Thanks to all involved it was a great weekend.


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Post by barr7430 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:20 pm

Bob thanks for that and I actually agree with many of your sentiments about the intensity of the game. Although this was a real challenge to manage I actually found it to be the most rewarding of all of the R2E weekenders so far. It felt absolutely right in the tension and confusion. Watching the Russian players obey but be frustrated by their commanders decisions was very interesting. Each had his own view about how the battle should be fought but like true subordinate commanders they obeyed orders!
The French were visibly stung into action by the appearance of Napoleon on the table and his dissatisfaction with their sloppy deployment around the Fleches! Quite funny to watch the spurt on that the French got after that! :lol:

Dave and I were just discussing some extensions to the scenario... some mods to terrain and effect when we do it again and have decided that at Falkirk this year we will run a modified version of the Raevski table.

We have also discussed a one day event simulating the Borodino flank with masses of Cossacks and Dragoons against the Italians!!!
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Post by toggy » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:32 pm

Yes Barry, Dave mentioned to me that you might extend the scenario, easier said than done with regards to logistics, but I'm sure that with your extraordinary bounds of enthusiasm not a huge problem.

I think this would create an even better game with more chances to exploit around the flank of the weak Russian left, until Prince Imrievich and the cream of the guard cavalry come to the rescue.


As to the 1 day game, sounds like a great idea, bring it on.

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Post by Rob Herrick » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:16 pm

barr7430 wrote:We have also discussed a one day event simulating the Borodino flank with masses of Cossacks and Dragoons against the Italians!!!
Not that many Italians. Just the Royal Guard. Would be fun to do!
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Post by Gerryjd » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:18 pm

Hi Guys,

Just wanted to say that I had a fantastic time at the weekend. Never felt so knackered and worn out from throwing dice. First time I've come away from a game having had my command completely destoyed at the fleches and felt that I'd won.

Much thanks to Barry and Dave O'Brien for answering so many questions, including the daft ones, and am looking forward to the next one, where, no doubt, me and Bob will sort the world out over a couple of beers whilst everybody else sleeps!!

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Post by barr7430 » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:32 am

True Vets at the bar Gerry! :shock:

Glad you enjoyed the gig.... I need to go and paint up more Russians, we clearly didn't have enough at the weekend! :roll:
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