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Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by 18th Century Guy » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:19 pm

I'm hoping Gunter has access to good images of them but if anyone knows of a site where I can get images for all of the Saxon cavalry in 1806 I would appreciate it. I'm looking for all regiments, even those who did not participate in the campaign. Thank you


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Re: Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by Friedrich August I. » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:19 pm

Greg,

How soon do you need this information?
Next month I get my hands on Hottenroths book about the Saxon Flags and Standards.
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Re: Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by 18th Century Guy » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:31 pm

Gunter,

I can wait. Thank you sir!

(if your source also has the infantry - all units - that would be great too!)

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Re: Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by Friedrich August I. » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:19 am

Greg,

It contains the Infantry too.

On a French website you'll find the infantry flags of the Saxons
from 1802 to 1813.
But be careful, the you must change the left picture against the right one :!: as the are all wrongsided.
The writing of the Monograms, the Electoral/Royal Cipher, was allways from left to right pointing TO the flagstaff.

http://www.drapeaux.org/Allemagne/Saxe/index.html

As soon as I have the Hottenroth book I give you more details.

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Re: Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by azeroth » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:07 am

Not sure if you have seen Alan Pendlebury's napflags site but there are a few there.

http://www.warflag.com/napflags/flaghtml/saxindx.htm

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Re: Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by Friedrich August I. » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:24 am

azeroth wrote:Not sure if you have seen Alan Pendlebury's napflags site but there are a few there.

http://www.warflag.com/napflags/flaghtml/saxindx.htm

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SAME PROBLEM !!!!

The Flags are WRONG - Sided

The Cipher MUST be to the left of the Flagstaff, the Coat of Arms have to be on the Right side of the Flagstaff

Most flag reproduzing companies have copies of the writing of a russian officer who has portrait the Saxon flags captured 1812.
The problem with it is that the copies where wrongsided printed so all did ist wrong.

Hope that helps

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Post by azeroth » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:44 am

My apologies Gunther, i didn't notice the mistakes in the flags just saw them.

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Re: Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by Friedrich August I. » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:50 am

azeroth wrote:My apologies Gunther, i didn't notice the mistakes in the flags just saw them.

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No Reason to appologies IanB, it's not your fault :D
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Re: Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by Friedrich August I. » Tue May 15, 2012 5:52 pm

Greg,

If you PM me your private e-mail adress I can send you a few pictures. I can't put it in here because of Copyrights.

It is the complete digitized book of Hottenroth about the Saxon flags from 1547 to 1904 :!:

Here a sample
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Re: Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by 18th Century Guy » Sat May 26, 2012 9:34 pm

Gunter,

Did I send you a PM? I don't remember! But I'm also curious about the Chevau-leger. One source says the saddelcloth was in the facing color while another shows them as red for all the Chevau-leger. Any ideas? Thank you so much.
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Re: Saxon cavalry flags for 1806 campaign

Post by Friedrich August I. » Sun May 27, 2012 9:08 am

18th Century Guy wrote:Gunter,

Did I send you a PM? I don't remember! But I'm also curious about the Chevau-leger. One source says the saddelcloth was in the facing color while another shows them as red for all the Chevau-leger. Any ideas? Thank you so much.
Greg,

nope, no PM from you :cry:
The Chevau Legers or Light Dragoons - because of their heavy boots and heavy Sabers - had since a reformation in 1767 red saddlecloth a.k.a. Shabracks. There was one Regiment in this time that wore for a short period green coats but after 1769 they got also red cloth shabracks and coats.
143 Polenz Chevau Legers.jpg
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The facing color were always used as border color on the Shabracks sometimes in double stripes later as a zigzag.

Hope that helps
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