Wanted: details of Spanish horse regt c.1680

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Wanted: details of Spanish horse regt c.1680

Post by Ronan the Librarian » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:32 pm

Hi,

Can anyone provide me with uniform/horse furniture/flag details for the Duke of Osuna's cavalry (not dragoon) regiment that served at Tangiers briefly in 1680-83? I believe that the coats were off white/light grey, and the hats were a similar light colour, but I have nothing more on facings, horse furniture.

One of our Spanish members, Chema1986, did supply a picture in a sculpting thread, but it was via photobucket and has thus gone the way of all flesh.

Thanks.
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Re: Wanted: details of Spanish horse regt c.1680

Post by Glorfindel » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:23 am

I have a soft copy of "The Spanish Armies in the War of the League of Augsburg" by GianCarlo Boeri, Jose Luis Mirecki & Jose Palau.

This provides a picture of the Osuna Cavalry Regiment (which, I think, is the one included in Chema1986's post).

The description is as follows :

Light grey/white coat, cuffs & hat lace. Red saddle cloth & pistol cover - both with white border.

Please PM me if you want a soft copy of the above document - very much recommended.


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Re: Wanted: details of Spanish horse regt c.1680

Post by Ronan the Librarian » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:29 am

Thank you, that was all I needed, except to ask did they wear cuirasses in 1680?

I'm looking to include it as part of a "Tangiers Garrison" army for a FoGR competition next February.
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Re: Wanted: details of Spanish horse regt c.1680

Post by Glorfindel » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:40 pm

>>>did they wear cuirasses in 1680?

It sounds as though they did. The above source includes the following :

"Until the mid 1680's cuirassiers and lancers wore breast and back plates, or at least the breastplate..."



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Post by Ronan the Librarian » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:08 am

Thanks again.
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Re: Wanted: details of Spanish horse regt c.1680

Post by chema1986 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:34 am

Hi there, Yes sadly all my photobucket pics are gone... I´m working on a new method... sorry for the late answer, yes all the info provided by Glorfindel is right. Happy painting and show us pics of your horsemen!

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Post by Ronan the Librarian » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:54 am

Will do, Chema.
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Re: Wanted: details of Spanish horse regt c.1680

Post by TheRightfulKing2013 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:12 pm

Glorfindel wrote:>>>did they wear cuirasses in 1680?

It sounds as though they did. The above source includes the following :

"Until the mid 1680's cuirassiers and lancers wore breast and back plates, or at least the breastplate..."



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I have some doubts. I have that ebook also, and while it does say that until the 1680s cuirassiers and lancers wore breast and back plates, it is not referring uniquely to the Osuna regiment but rather generically. There may also been regiments called Cuirassiers that were no longer wearing them in the War of the League of Augsburg.

However during the War of the League of Augsburg 1688-97, the Milan Cavalry (white coat and blue cuffs) did wear the lobster helmet and a cuirass.
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Re: Wanted: details of Spanish horse regt c.1680

Post by yar68 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:25 pm

I'll be painting this unit up myself soon. I'm not including breastplates, it was probably to hot to wear them? Just my thoughts?
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Re: Wanted: details of Spanish horse regt c.1680

Post by chema1986 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:09 pm

Hi Ray,
You may be right, is too hot there, but the Moors used more cold steel weapons and armor than their Europeans counterparts I believe, so my countrymen may have used their breastplates for defense against cavalry lances or swords... both posibilities are right for me !

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