Officer Breeches

[flags_of_war]

Im painting up some Late 17thC Scots from Front Rank. Im wanting to have them as Cameronians. Im using Stuart Reids the Last Scots Armies for a guide. It gives the Cameronians having Grey Breeches but i was wanting to know if the Officers would have the same?

[Churchill]

Ray.

[barr7430]

This is another of my pet subjects.. how critical is the choice of under clothes colours in the period. I'll give the anwer first to save reading any of my musings!:

Don't think the colour matters: white, off white, grey, grey brown red faded red brown? any mixture of the these within the same unit.


Reason: Colonels paid for and clothed/equipped their men. Many did it on the cheap and rebilled the authorities for the full price. Corruption was rife (epic some would say). There is a thread somewhere else on this board with the story of Mr Harborne (Paymaster? for William III in Ireland) he seems to have appropriated the equivalent of £40,000,000 (for the avoidance of doubt that is 40 million pounds equivalent in modern money) from the army's war chest!
Dyes were not fast, clothing quality for soldiers(perhaps on the lowest level of civilized society) was probably appauling and so will have worn out quickly.. proabably not replaced by the regiment.

So, anything you like really!

[barr7430]

This is another of my pet subjects.. how critical is the choice of under clothes colours in the period. I'll give the anwer first to save reading any of my musings!:

Don't think the colour matters: white, off white, grey, grey brown, red faded to pinkish, red brown? any mixture of the these within the same unit.


Reason: Colonels paid for and clothed/equipped their men. Many did it on the cheap and rebilled the authorities for the full price. Corruption was rife (epic some would say). There is a thread somewhere else on this board with the story of Mr Harborne (Paymaster? for William III in Ireland) he seems to have appropriated the equivalent of £40,000,000 (for the avoidance of doubt that is 40 million pounds equivalent in modern money) from the army's war chest!
Dyes were not fast, clothing quality for soldiers(perhaps on the lowest level of civilized society) was probably appauling and so will have worn out quickly.. proabably not replaced by the regiment.

So, anything you like really!

[obriendavid]

This subject has obviously preyed on his mind so much he's posted it twice

Cheers
Dave

[barr7430]

Right!

but now it is off my mind so I won't speak about it again

[obriendavid]

That's what happens when you reach 50 you start repeating yourself and once you get older to about 50 you start re...oops!
Dave

[flags_of_war]

Cheers for the info guys. I'll prob just go for the white to make them stand out against the lower ranks

[CoffinDodger]

...It gives the Cameronians having Grey Breeches

Actually real men wore kilts...

[flick40]

Actually real men wore kilts

and before that naked with blue designs all over

[barr7430]

The blue designs are just a Hollywood construct... the real blue on Scots bodies comes from the cold and varicose veins.....

[dashing blade]

Barry,
In my experience, most Celts tend to be a light blue in winter and a lobster red during the three days of summer!

[barr7430]

DB, decorum prevents me enquiring where you have seen the naked bodies of Celts and I also refuse to ask which gender

[dashing blade]

Barry, Decorum may prevent you from asking,however,Reputation demands i answer!
Most of my celtic skin colour research is taken from my own mostly light blue body.However ,various "Squaddie tans" (i belive this is the common term for tanned or red forearms) would suggest that The Royal Irish and the H.L.I. have the most lobstered Squaddie tans .
N.B.NOTHING MORE THAN FOREARMS WERE CHECKED!

[obriendavid]

Barry,
In my experience, most Celts tend to be a light blue in winter and a lobster red during the three days of summer!

What! we get three days of summer?
I must have lost a couple of days somewhere
Cheers
Dave