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Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and stuf

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:37 am
by The Question
Does somebody know some good books /internet sites about the Dutch army formations and the colours of uniforms with the units in the Dutch army.

I don't know how complete the BLB book is about this..

Thanks in advance.

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:49 am
by wdrenth
Regarding links, you can always get a good start with
http://www.milwiki.nl/dutchregiments/
this site is basically a copy of Ringoir's publication on the genealogy of the various regiments of the Dutch army (ab urbe condita, so to speak).
http://rampjaar.blogspot.nl/ posts regularly on uniforms, flags, etc, and is well worth checking
http://www.spanishsuccession.nl/dutch_army.html gives some additional information on the Dutch army during the War of the Spanish Succession.

The most important source for the history of the Staatse Leger during the period you are interested in is Het Staatsche Leger. Your local library should be able to get a copy for you via inter-library loan. Though the last volume ends with the conclusion of the War of the Spanish Succession, it still provides you with ample detail on the army. Not much on colour of uniforms though. Related, you may also want to check out one or more of the books written by dr. Olaf van Nimwegen. In particular his book on the Dutch army and military revolution, covering the period 1588 - 1688 is worth reading. (Again not much on uniforms.)
As for uniforms, C.A. Sapherson compiled a small book on the Dutch army of William III between 1688 and 1702, that has uniform details :)

Hope this helps you to get started.

kind regards,
Wienand

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:40 am
by The Question
Thanks Wienand :wink: ,

Now the (re)searching can start :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Kind Regards,

Jeroen.

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:52 am
by Ben Waterhouse
very useful Wienand, thanks.

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:35 pm
by quindia
There is a great collection of watercolor prints at the Dutch Army Museum and they are available online.

Mark Allen also did a great series for Wargames Illustrated years ago that featured multiple articles on the Dutch uniforms and standards.

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:38 pm
by The Question
Quindia do you happen to know in which issues this was put in?

Het staatsche leger is gonna be hard to get.
Also the book written by dr. Olaf van Nimwegen cost around €100 is this normal for that book?

Kind regards.

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:52 pm
by wdrenth
Jeroen,

Not sure which book of van Nimwegen you were looking for. His Het Staatse Leger en de militaire revoluties (1588-1688) sells for 23/24 Euri:
http://boekwinkeltjes.nl/uitgebreid_zoe ... =1&overig= The English translation of this book is indeed terribly expensive. For Het Staatsche Leger a library will be the only alternative I am afraid.

Good luck :)
Wienand

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:26 pm
by quindia
Will try to look them up...

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:19 pm
by footslogger
Robert Hall is working on a uniform book for the Dutch in the WSS. I hear the first volume will be out around the end of this year.

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:56 pm
by Clibinarium
Footslogger, do you know whether it will be released as an entire book, or in plate form?

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:15 am
by The Question
Thanks guys for all the help :mrgreen:

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:10 pm
by Redmist1122
All,
I have an index of WI when I bought the first 200 issues on CD...if interested I can post on this site if allowed, its a Word document. But to answer the Mark Allen articles for this period, see WI's: 27, 32, 36, 41, 49, 51, 52, 54, 59, 61, 62, 64, 65, 66, 68, 74, 77, 79, 82, 83, 101, 123, 125, 126, 127, 128, 170, 139, 173, 174, and 175.
Hope this helps.

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:09 pm
by Ben Waterhouse
It certainly does Greg, Ta!

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:08 am
by Clibinarium
I bookmarked this thread a while ago;
viewtopic.php?t=1397&highlight=allen

I've pasted the list of articles enumerated in it, so credit to the original poster, not me.

The War of the Grand Alliance Pt.1 No.27 P16
The War of the Grand Alliance 1688-1697 Pt.2 No.32 P14
The War of the Grand Alliance Pt.3 No.36 P40
The War of the Grand Alliance Pt.4 No.41 P16
The War of the Grand Alliance Pt.5 No.49 P14
The War of the Grand Alliance Pt.6 No.51 P15
The War of the Grand Alliance Pt.7 No.52 P14
The War of the Grand Alliance Pt.8 (The Irish) No.54 P38
The War of the Grand Alliance Pt.9 No.59 P14
The War of the Grand Alliance Pt.10 No, 61 P14
Infantry of the War of the Spanish Succession Pt.1 No.62 P14
French Infantry Regiments of the War of the Spanish Succession Pt.2 No.64 P37
French Infantry Regiments of the War of the Spanish Succession Pt.3 No.65 P38
The Army of Louis XIV during the Wars of the Grand Alliance Pt.1 No.66 P36
The Army of Louis XIV during the Wars of the Grand Alliance Pt.2 No.68 P14
Building a War games Army Pt.1 No.74 P16
The Army of Louis XIV during the Wars of the Grand Alliance Pt.3 No.77 P14
Building a War games Army Pt.2 No.79 P42
Building a War games Army Pt.3 No.82 P42
Building a War games Army Pt.4 No.83 P42
Building a War games Army Pt.5 No.101 P38
The British Army 1660-1702 No.123 P16
The British Army 1660-1702 Pt.2 No.125 P44
The British Army 1660-1702 No.126 P12
The Armies of James II & William III No.127 P42
The Armies of James II & William III – Flags No.128 P44
The Dutch Infantry in the Reign of William III No.170 P34
William III’s Dutch Guards No.139 P44
The Dutch Cavalry in the Reign of William III No.173 P14
The Dutch Dragoons and Artillery in the Reign of William III No.174 P34
The Dutch Cavalry in the Reign of William III ‘cont’ No.174 P38
The Dutch Army of William III – Allies and Generals No.175 P16
Building a Wargames Army for the Thirty Years War. Military Dress, 1618-1648 No.182 P30

Re: Books/internet links Duch Forces 1660-1721 uniforms and

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:10 am
by Ben Waterhouse
Does anyone reckon Mr Allen would be willing to republish these as a separate book(s)?