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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Prince Henry » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:51 pm

Thanks, Ray! The musicians added quite a bit of time to the painting process, but I think I worked out a reasonably realistic look for them...

I, too, like the 3-rank look, plus I want to differentiate the platoon firing troops by using a 2-rank base... something I think is important and interesting to represent the difference in frontages between the deeper French and the shallower allies (mainly Dutch, English and Prussians). The clever way to do it is to use the same base size (2x3 inches) turned sideways - thus six figures in two ranks on 3 inch frontage or six figures in 3 ranks on 2 inch frontage. Unfortunately, I figured this out after I had painted and mounted 8 battalions of English and Prussians... :( And this will work with BLB - which, by the way, I am impressed with now that I have them... Now I have to paint two more figures per battalion (currently they are 16 figures each on 4 square 2x2 four figure bases) AND remount them. Sigh. 3rd enlargement and re-basing for some of the troops...

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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Prince Henry » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:44 pm

Just finished the Regiment of Navarre...

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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Prince Henry » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:22 am

Does anyone have a good source for French general officers uniforms?

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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by j1mwallace » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:01 am

Senior officers wore their own clothes .so there is no uniform as such. Try using contemporary paintings as reference
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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Prince Henry » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:55 am

Yes... thanks!
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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Prince Henry » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:33 am

Just finished some French artillery...

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Next -more infantry and some generals.

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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Arthur » Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:51 am

Prince Henry wrote:Just finished the Regiment of Navarre...
To be pedantic about it, Navarre's drapeaux d'ordonnance had feuille morte - i.e orange brown - cantons, not green ones. Your coloured flag appears to combine the golden lillies and crowned arms of Navarre devices featured on the white cross of the Navarre colours with the green cantons of the Champagne regiment. Navarre also had red waistcoats rather than grey ones, which adds a touch of colour to the figures.

Not being critical of your work here, mind you, just pointing out these details for the sake of historical accuracy.
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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Prince Henry » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:36 am

Thanks Arthur - I am partially color-blind ( I can basically see the standard crayon colors, but shades of brown/green are almost impossible for me), that combined with trying to figure out what color the fields were from pictures with no description has been my downfall. I will correct the colors... can you give me an equivalent paint name/number in Foundry or another common acrylic paint company?

You should have seen my horse colors before I figured out I needed someone to tell me which brown paints could be used on horses! :shock:

As for the red waistcoats, I had one of two choices - I guess I chose the wrong one - another touch-up!

Anyway, thank you for the constructive criticism! It will prevent my troops being laughed off the field... :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Arthur » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:50 pm

I very much doubt your unit would have been laughed off the table, Doug.

Feuille morte is one of those interesting colours everyone seems to interpret his or her own way : some illustrators render it as a medium brown, others as a slightly orangey shade of tan. For what it's worth, I'd suggest using the Foundry Conker brown light shade (which would be jar 54C in the Foundry catalogue) brightened up with a bit of orange to produce a rich hue of orangey brown.
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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Prince Henry » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:11 am

Great - this helps a lot! I hope to update the images soon with the correct flag colors - and new waistcoats... :wink: BTW - I am trying out Maverick Models to see what their cloth flags look like - I am normally a purist for painting my own stuff, but it is frustratingly difficult to get high-quality images of the WSS flags to use as models for painting...

Some 15mm Hoplites I did 20+ years ago...
http://home.comcast.net/~muddster1/game ... rian4w.jpg
15mm Marian Romans (12 years ago)
http://home.comcast.net/~muddster1/game ... ian3lw.jpg
15 SYW Prussian Curassiers (6 years ago)
http://home.comcast.net/~muddster1/game ... sier-1.jpg

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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Herkybird » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:01 pm

I always head to the Warflag site for my flags! http://web.archive.org/web/201012270238 ... lect.shtml
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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Friedrich August I. » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:04 pm

Hi Doug,

I tried also first time for my upcoming Imperial Austrian Army the Flags from Maverick and I too want to go for the 'Material' Printed flags. I think the quality is very good. Look here

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Plain view as you receive them from Maverick.

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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Artimas » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:34 pm

Boy, those are nice Gunter.
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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Prince Henry » Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:31 am

Thanks Gunter - that looks great! I can't wait to get the flags I ordered...

Herkybird - thanks - they ae great for the designs - I wish they told you what the colors were - the Champagne flag looks like a darker yellow to me - as opposed to the green it is supposed to be...

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Re: Source for WSS French Uniforms

Post by Prince Henry » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:33 pm

I have made the changes to Navarre - Arthur, is this closer to the right color for the flag?

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plus I added the red waistcoats...

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Doug
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