Help on Allied OB for Landen

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Help on Allied OB for Landen

Post by dennio1 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:15 pm

I am hoping to do a war game refight of Landen using ULB rules and have managed to get the French OB sorted. If anyone has information on the allies I would be grateful.
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Re: Help on Allied OB for Landen

Post by Graf Bretlach » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:20 pm

Have a look in Auvergne's 1693 campagne pp. 22-26 this is the Parck camp so not all units present

http://google.co.uk/books?id=cmxLAAAAcAAJ

Here are the Hanoverians - heavy losses in particular senior field officers and cavalry horses (927 horses killed or wounded)

Cavalry
Leibgarde zu Pferde - 1s
Kurprinz [1CA] 1s [2s]
Öffener [2CB] - 3s [2s]
Breidenbach [3CA] - 2s
Voigt [4CA] 2s
Montigny 2s [disbanded 1698]
Türck 2s [disbanded 1697]
Ohr 2s [disbanded 1697]

Bülow Dragoner [7C] 3s (lost 39 men but 158 horses)

Infanterie single battalions
Garde-Bataillon
Saint-Pol [5A]
Bremer [8B]
Graf von Königsmark [9B]
du Mont [11B]
Cordon [disbanded 1697]

Kurprinz Georg Ludwig von Hannover - Lt-General of Horse
Freiherr Georg Friedrich von Öffener - Lt-General of Horse (killed @ 72 ans)
du Mont - Lt-General of Foot
Ferdinand von Ohr - Maj-General
Johann von dem Busche - Maj-General (killed)

more to follow
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Re: Help on Allied OB for Landen

Post by dennio1 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:00 am

This is great,thankyou
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Re: Help on Allied OB for Landen

Post by Graf Bretlach » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:29 am

The British contingent at Neerwinden 29th July 1693

figures in square brackets are for my own reference

Infantry
Lt-General Thomas Tollemache
Maj-General Sir Henry Bellasyse

Horse
Maj-General Henry de Massue, Marquis de Ruvigny (Viscount Galway)
Maj-General James Butler, 2nd Duke of Ormonde – wounded & captured
Maj-General Richard Lumley, 1st Earl of Scarborough
Maj-General Richard, Lord Colchester

List of cavalry regiments
1. Scarborough’s troop of horse guards [1st Troop]
2. Lord Colchester’s troop of horse guards [3rd Troop]
Each troop had attached horse grenadiers
The dutch garde du corps [cv599a] were grouped with the above [4th Troop]

3. Brigadier Henry Lumley’s Regiment of horse [1DG] 3s
4. Lord Berkley’s Regiment of horse [3DG] 2s
5. Colonel Langston’s Regiment of horse [4DG] 2s
6. Colonel Wyndham’s Regiment of horse [6DG] 2s
7. Lord Galway’s Huguenot Regiment of horse [11H] 3s

total 12 squadrons of horse plus 2 troops of guards

8. Lord Fitzhardinge’s regiment of dragoons [4D] 3s

List of regiments of foot
1. Guards [1G] 2 btns (16 companies)
2. Guards [2G] 1 btn – (Coldstream Guards) (7 companies)
3. Guards [3G] 2 btns – (Scots Guards) (14 companies)
4. Royal regiment [1F] 2 btns
5. Brigadier Selwyn’s [2F] 1 btn
6. Brigadier Churchill’s [3F] 1 btn
7. Trelawney’s [4F] 1 btn
8. Fitzpatrick’s fuziliers [7F] 1 btn
9. Tidcomb’s [14F] 1 btn
10. Collingwood’s [16Fa] 1 btn – disbanded 1700
11. Stanley’s [16F] 1 btn
12. Erle’s [19F] 1 btn

Scots regiments
13. O’Farrell’s fuziliers [21F] 1 btn
14. Leven’s [25F] 1 btn
15. Munro’s [26F] 1 btn
16. Graham’s [i675a] 1 btn (ex Dutch service)
17. Lauder’s [i603a] 1 btn (ex Dutch service)
18. Mackay’s [i595a] 1 btn (ex Dutch service)
Total 21 btns
Not present - detached with Württemberg
Duke of Leinster’s Regiment of horse [7DG] 2s
Bath’s [10F] 1 btn
Lord Castleton’s [26Fa] 1 btn – disbanded 1698
Earl of Argyle’s [42Fa] 1 btn – disbanded 1698
brigading is difficult

Brigadier George Ramsay had 5 Scots btns (in Laer)
O’Farrell’s, Mackay’s, Lauder’s, Leven’s, Munro’s

Guards brigade (later to Neerwinden)
1st Guards 1st btn, Dutch Garde 2nd btn, Scots Guards 2nd btn

Guards brigade
1st Guards 2nd btn, 2nd Guards 1 btn, Scots Guards 1st btn

Brigadier Charles Churchill (or William Selwyn) had 4 btns [5 btns] [6 btns] (Neerlanden)
Royals 1st btn, Churchill’s, Selwyn’s and Trelawney’s [plus Fitzpatrick’s]
[Royals 2nd btn]

Churchill’s & Trelawney’s later to Laer to support Ramsay

Brigadier Thomas Erle 4 btns [5 btns] (holding Rumsdorf)
Tidcomb’s, Stanley’s, Erle’s, Collingwood’s [plus Graham’s]

Fagel’s (Dutch i673a) btn
Prince Frederick’s (Danish) btn

The British horse would probably be split into 2 brigades plus the Guards plus the dragoons.

Additions or corrections welcome
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Re: Help on Allied OB for Landen

Post by Graf Bretlach » Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:14 pm

This should be the last units present

Danish
Prins Frederik 1 btn
Zeeland 1 btn
Funen 1 btn
Württemberg 2 sqns
Zeeland (Sehested) 2 sqns
the others were detached with Württemberg (5 btns and 2 sqns)

GL Julius von Tettau
13 btns joined (replaced those detached)
no names yet (garrisons of Liege and Maastricht)

Brandenburg (Spanish service)
6 btns under GM Friedrich, Freiherr von Heyden
Markgraf Karl
Markgraf Christian Ludwig
Lottum [IR15] Oberst Carl Philipp, Freiherr von Wylich zu Lottum
Horn
Varenne [IR13] Oberst Jacques l’Aumonier, marquis de Varenne
Buys [IR9] Oberst Anton de Buys was killed

Reserve horse under Athlone - mostly Dutch, some unidentified
Dorfling – Brandenburg Dörfling [?] 2 sqns
Nassau-Weilburg Hessian Dragoons? 3 sqns
Ostfriese - [cr672c]?? 1 sqn
Wesel or Chauvet 2 sqns
Erpach - Erbach [cr688c] 2 sqns
Tilly [cr671b] 2 sqns
Hesse ? 2 sqns
Dewitz – Brandenburg? 2 sqns
Flodorff [cr672f] 2 sqns
Nassau-Saabrücken [cr671c] 2 sqns
total 20 sqns (was 30 but 10 were detached)

Main Dutch horse of the left
Auverquerque life guard [cv599a] 1 sqn
Lipzel 2 sqns
Warfuse [cv588a] 2 sqns
Hessen-Darmstadt [cr688e] 2 sqns
Ryswick [cr688a] Duyn or Rijswijk 2 sqns
Athlone [cv625b] (Ginkel) 2 sqns
Nassau-Friesland [cr668a] 3 sqns
Dompré [cr665b] 2 sqns
Wolfenbuttel 2 sqns
Lippe (Holl.) [cr688d] Karabiniers 2 sqns
Obdam [cr645a] 2 sqns
Hessen-Homburg [cv599b] 2 sqns
Monpouillan [cr672g] 2 sqns
Zuylestein [cv588b] 2 sqns
Schack [cr672i] 2 sqns
Boncour [cr672d] 2 sqns
total 32 sqns

Spanish horse of the right
Fourna – Spanish dragoons 2 sqns
Guards of Egmont 1 sqn
Guards of Vaudemont 1 sqn
Guards du Puy 1 sqn
Chimay 1 sqn
Hartman1 sqn - Brandenburg Regiment zu Pferde
Prince of Steenhuy dragoons 2 sqns
Vaudemont 1 sqn (more Guards?)
du Puy 1 sqn (more Guards?)
Moncade 1 sqn
Ximene 1 sqn
Spinosa 1 sqn
Prince Charles of Lorraine 1 sqn
Pignatelli 1 sqn
total 16 sqns

and lastly the Dutch foot
Dutch Garde [ir599a] 2 btns
Nassau [ir595b] 1 btn
Graben [ir672h] 1 btn
Suerin 1 btn
Noyelles [ir664b] 1 btn
Nassau Friesland [ir639a] 2 btns
Packmoer 1 btn
Buwer 1 btn
Swerin 1 btn
Anhalt-Zerbst [IR8] 1 btn Brandenburg - Dutch pay
Aylica 1 btn
Fagel [ir673a] 1 btn
Nassau Groningue 1 btn
total 15 btns

The original army in camp at Parck Abbey was
64 btns (@600 = 38,200 men)
151 sqns (@150 = 22,650 horse)

13 btns were detached but replaced by 13 under Tettau so no change
26 (or thereabouts) sqns were detached so leaves 125 sqns present

a ratio of 2 sqns per btn

additions or corrections welcome
Last edited by Graf Bretlach on Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:40 am, edited 4 times in total.
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Re: Help on Allied OB for Landen

Post by Graf Bretlach » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:42 pm

Missed out the Bavarians

The Elector Max Emmanuel was present
2 large Kürassier Regiments 4 sqns each Arco and Weickel
and the Leibgarde or Leibregiment of 2 sqns
total 10 sqns
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Re: Help on Allied OB for Landen

Post by dennio1 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:05 pm

Thankyou very much.l can start getting the figures ready now
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Re: Help on Allied OB for Landen

Post by Graf Bretlach » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:02 am

You are welcome, I would be interested in the plan for your project.

your post actually stirred me to re visit the Landen OB, something I had looked at a few years back on this forum.

note: my post has been edited a few times with corrections and information provided by Dan Schorr.
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