Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

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Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by Old John » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:46 pm

this new title was wondering if any different or expanded on Michael McNally's previous work

Battle of Aughrim 1691 published in 2008 by the History Press ISBN 9780752446875

comments and advice welcome

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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by turrabear » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:02 pm

Its an expanded version of the old book the illustrations are different rather than battle scenes it has 5 pages of uniforms and 3 pages of flags .i,m reading it just now and as far as i can make out the appendixs are the main difference compared to the old version of it.
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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by Old John » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:17 am

many thanks for info, is it worth getting? any new research, details etc
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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by turrabear » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:39 pm

To be honest john in the chapters i,ve read i,d say no.is the book worth getting i,d say yes.as i,ve said the only difference i can see are the illustrations and the appendix.but as i,ve said havn,t finished the book.but it still is an exellent read.
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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by Old John » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:42 am

many thanks for comments, reckon i'll get it,
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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by Rebel » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:35 am

John,

basically the whole book has been revised in the light of more modern research - if things were needed to be changed they were - to this was added a more indepth study of the changes in the Irish army under Tyrconnel and a full narrative was added to cover the siege of Limerick. A number of the original appendices were omitted and a dozen or so more added which include the only three accounts of the siege found to date (one French Jacobite, two English Williamite), the OOBs were fully revised and whilst the Jacobite OOB is by nature vague, referring only to known units, the Williamite one also refers to units which were stationed elsewhere. Maps have again been fully updated in the light of the above, the main thing coming form this is that Ginkel does not spread his artillery evenly, and that the Centre-Left formations have no artilelry suppport at all, whilst those guns on the flanks don't really come into action. Would hope that the answer to all of your questions is yes.
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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by Old John » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:53 am

thanks for clarification on the book, now ordered :D

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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by Rebel » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:45 am

A pleasure. Just to whet your appetite there are a further nine Ireland related subjects in discussion with Helion. Naturally, these need to be agreed/commissioned and then researched/written, so we have a few years before they will possibly see the light of day.

Hope you enjoy reading it.
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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by turrabear » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:56 pm

As i said to john i,ve only started to read the book.but what i,ve read so far is exellent.as i commented on amazon about the 1st edition of the book .in years to come yoir book on aughrim will be the text book on the subject.
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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by Rebel » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:05 am

Thanks for the compliment - Really appreciate it !
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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by Old John » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:37 am

got it, reading book at moment, excellent research, great uniform and flag plates,extremely highly recommended, think it will be the standard reference for the battle etc
brilliant work
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Re: Helion No 27 St Ruth and Aughrim 1691

Post by TheRightfulKing2013 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:22 am

This is one of those "what-if" battles as the Jacobites felt they were winning until the Marquis de St.Ruth was decapitated by a cannon ball. Another problem was he didn't leave any infantry in the reserve so it fell to Galmoye's horse to cover the retreat.
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