The Glorious revolution on BBC Four

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The Glorious revolution on BBC Four

Post by j1mwallace » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:38 am

Gents .
Programme 2 in a series of 3 tonight . All about the Fibs we are told in history. Number 1 about the wars of the Roses was very interesting . .
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Post by arthur1905 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:33 am

Thanks for the heads up

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Post by obriendavid » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:06 am

Didn't learn anything new from that program but hopefully it educated more of the general public? Although it is always a bonus to see the lovely Lucy.
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Post by Ben Waterhouse » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:56 pm

Indeed; the lovely. lovely Lucy with a lisp...
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Post by Glorfindel » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:57 pm

Very interesting episode with quite a significant part looking at the impact of these events in later years. Its always going to be relatively superficial given the short time available but I think she tried to maintain a balanced view.

I always appreciate Lucy's efforts to bring history alive in a way which might appeal to the general public - lots of warmth and humour.

I did notice one little point she made - apparently the term 'dragoon' is named after the 'fire-breathing' / dragon-like musket ??

Hmmm. Not so sure - I thought the jury was still out on that one. Seemed a bit of a throw-away comment. Does she have some special insight here ?


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Post by obriendavid » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:24 pm

She also kept saying that James was a tyrant which is news to me I would have liked to see more evidence regarding that point.
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Post by lee sherman » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:33 pm

Only just watched it....

Did James II really not fight and run because of a nose bleed?? Seriously?
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Post by barr7430 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:11 pm

Pop history.
The 'general' general public like their history in incy-wincy little doses that are easy to digest between tweets, facebook and reality TV. Anything demanding slightly more concentration is off the menu.

It was a nosebleed... British history changed as a direct result of the King having a panic attack.. believe me, it was on TV so it must be true

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Post by barr7430 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:15 pm

Lee, incidentally I was classing you in the category of
Wargaming Nerd... along with the rest of us..... :wink:

Have a read at Meriol Trevor's book on the life of James II - The shadow of a Crown. Then you'll get the Jacobite view.. good read but mnay say it is too biased the other way
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Post by lee sherman » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:32 pm

So it was rubbish the nose bleed? maybe he new the game was up?, the army was ready to rebel? Or he actually thought let's not start another civil war? I can just imagine the officers thinking we're is the king!? Someone saying he's gone running with a nose bleed so don't waist your troops lives on him either way I don't believe that he ran because of a nose bleed maybe the victors propaganda twist made him look week and not very king like
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Post by barr7430 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:47 pm

I am sure he did have a nose bleed at some point Lee. I just think that may be a bit of an apocryphal tale for the all the other haemorrhaging going on at the time...

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Post by j1mwallace » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:17 am

The piece that I thought was interesting was William having to change the dates on his correspondence . And don't mention the word invasion. i dont mind Lucy doing history as she doesn't really seem to have a political agenda.

the BBC history magazine this month (march issue) has an extra magazine about the Stuarts . Quite interesting .
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